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  When was Christ's invisible presence changed to 1914 ? first mention of it?

  by run dont walk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  kind of a continuation of my previous thread, does anyone know when christ's invisible presence was changed to 1914 form 1874 ???.

  the prophecy book (1929), mentions it as positively being in 1874, i've seen a few watchtowers from 1930 say the same.. surely there must of been a huge book or watchtower mentioning the change.

  this would of been the most important "new light" ever for witnesses.

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  On pp. 206, 209, God's Kingdom Of a Thousand Years Has Approached said:

  "It is true that the editor and publisher of Zion's Watchtower and Herald of Christ's Presence calculated that the "presence" or parousia of the heavenly bridegroom began in the year 1874 C.E. [...] In the year 1943 the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society published the book "The Truth Shall Make You Free." In its chapter 11, entitled "The Count of Time" it did away with the insertion of 100 years into the period of the Judges and went according to the oldest and most authentic reading of Acts 13:20, and accepted the spelled-out numbers of the Hebrew Scriptures. This moved forward the end of six thousand years of man's existence into the decade of the 1970's. Naturally this did away with the year 1874 C.E."
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  When was Christ's invisible presence changed to 1914 ? first mention of it?

  by run dont walk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  kind of a continuation of my previous thread, does anyone know when christ's invisible presence was changed to 1914 form 1874 ???.

  the prophecy book (1929), mentions it as positively being in 1874, i've seen a few watchtowers from 1930 say the same.. surely there must of been a huge book or watchtower mentioning the change.

  this would of been the most important "new light" ever for witnesses.

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  run dont walk

  On pp. 206, 209, God's Kingdom Of a Thousand Years Has Approached said:

  "It is true that the editor and publisher of Zion's Watchtower and Herald of Christ's Presence calculated that the "presence" or parousia of the heavenly bridegroom began in the year 1874 C.E. [...] In the year 1943 the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society published the book "The Truth Shall Make You Free." In its chapter 11, entitled "The Count of Time" it did away with the insertion of 100 years into the period of the Judges and went according to the oldest and most authentic reading of Acts 13:20, and accepted the spelled-out numbers of the Hebrew Scriptures. This moved forward the end of six thousand years of man's existence into the decade of the 1970's. Naturally this did away with the year 1874 C.E."

  Interesting !!!!!!!

  run
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  When was Christ's invisible presence changed to 1914 ? first mention of it?

  by run dont walk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  kind of a continuation of my previous thread, does anyone know when christ's invisible presence was changed to 1914 form 1874 ???.

  the prophecy book (1929), mentions it as positively being in 1874, i've seen a few watchtowers from 1930 say the same.. surely there must of been a huge book or watchtower mentioning the change.

  this would of been the most important "new light" ever for witnesses.

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  run dont walk

  awesome Jeff thanks, please post if you find it !!!!!!!!!!!!
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  When was Christ's invisible presence changed to 1914 ? first mention of it?

  by run dont walk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  kind of a continuation of my previous thread, does anyone know when christ's invisible presence was changed to 1914 form 1874 ???.

  the prophecy book (1929), mentions it as positively being in 1874, i've seen a few watchtowers from 1930 say the same.. surely there must of been a huge book or watchtower mentioning the change.

  this would of been the most important "new light" ever for witnesses.

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  run dont walk

  just purchased "Prophecy (1929) and The Truth Shall set you free (1943) on ebay, now Propecy still says Christ's return was in 1874, I have never read The Truth shall set you free, but the Watchtower claims it says Christs return was in 1914 (and they could be lying) the quote came from God's Kingdom of a 100o years, as mentioned by Alan F in his response.

  Is this the first mention of it ?, 30 years after the fact, maybe the phone line going to the faithful and discreet slave class takes 30 years to receive messages, well, since Christ and Jehovah are so far away, maybe they don't have the technology we do !

  I will post both books when I receive them, this topic has really got me intrigued. If you know of any other publication between 1929 - 1943, that mention 1874 or 1914, could you please let me know.

  I plan on asking my elder brother and special pioneer sister this, and asking whats the deal, how do think they would repond ???

  Quotes if you're out there, do you have any info ?????
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  Who and What was the deal on this Leo Greenlee's person ?????

  by run dont walk in

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  from rumour, i understand he was a governing body member, and he liked getting new bethelite boys drunk and playing hide the hot dog in your bum, and that he was transferred to new orleans as a "special pioneer", now this is all rumour, do we have any facts, and how long was he a governing body member, and did he die a faithful witness ???????

  any info on this guy would be appreciated.. thanks in advance

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  From RUMOUR, I understand he was a governing body member, and he liked getting new bethelite boys drunk and playing hide the hot dog in your bum, and that he was transferred to New Orleans as a "Special pioneer", now this is all rumour, do we have any facts, and how long was he a governing body member, and did he die a faithful witness ??????? Any info on this guy would be appreciated.

  thanks in advance
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  **MUST READ** AlanF's email to Knocking.org

  by sf in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a must-read that, hopefully, will stay an "active topic" for all seekers and lurkers, by bumping it to the top as often as possible.

  alan wrote it in randys {dogpatch} thread regarding knocking.org documentary and in reply to the email mr. engardio sent to barbara anderson.

  however, it is so vital a read that it indeed needs its own thread:.

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  since I came on this board I have always had respect for Alan, now thats tripled, well done !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  Leaving the Truth - Songs to Destroy Your Faith By

  by tetrapod.sapien in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  as some of you may know, i am a recently self-deconverted jw.

  the experience of deconversion was at times emotional.

  i have compiled a list of songs i would listen to on those emotionally turbulent occasions.

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  There is a song called Lie on Lie

  I always think of 1975, 1925, when I hear it.

  Anyone know who sings it ?????????????????????????

  the lyrics are great if anyone can find them.
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  Leaving the Truth - Songs to Destroy Your Faith By

  by tetrapod.sapien in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  as some of you may know, i am a recently self-deconverted jw.

  the experience of deconversion was at times emotional.

  i have compiled a list of songs i would listen to on those emotionally turbulent occasions.

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  run dont walk

  I like a lot of stuff by Collective Soul, I not sure about there background (anyone know)they have some greats as well.

  Shine

  Gel

  Get the News Out
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  Leaving the Truth - Songs to Destroy Your Faith By

  by tetrapod.sapien in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  as some of you may know, i am a recently self-deconverted jw.

  the experience of deconversion was at times emotional.

  i have compiled a list of songs i would listen to on those emotionally turbulent occasions.

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  run dont walk

  If you have never heard One Man Army by Our Lady Peace, give a listen, truly one of the best ........

  this is a sample, tell me you don't think of JW's :

  "Take these plastic people

  Read their lips, now let it linger

  Is there anything that makes them sound sincere

  Tightly hold your hand

  Take a deep breathe, give them the finger

  Are you worried

  that your thoughts are not quite clear?

  Overlooked Unfit appearance

  I remember falling

  I remember marching

  like a one man army

  I remember coughing

  I believe in something

  I don't want to remember falling for your lies

  Truly a classic, was released in 1999 on the Happiness CD

  play it , you'll love it
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  Leaving the Truth - Songs to Destroy Your Faith By

  by tetrapod.sapien in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  as some of you may know, i am a recently self-deconverted jw.

  the experience of deconversion was at times emotional.

  i have compiled a list of songs i would listen to on those emotionally turbulent occasions.

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  run dont walk

  as mentioned Losing My Religion by REM

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  Blaspemous Rumours by Depeche Mode,

  what classics